Science and theology. Scientism and shamanism. Empiricism and metaphysics. Nature and the spiritual realm. Anyway you view it, this has been a polarized debate for thousands of years, as if it has to be one or the other. I suggest that they are as intertwined as the main fractal model. Some may look at that model and see the fractalized spiral. Others may only pay attention to the tubular spiral. And some may see two spirals, intertwined.
Let's take just a moment and look at this tubular Golden Spiral. What is suggested in these two poems is but two different viewpoints of the same event. One says there was nothing, now there is, while the other says, no it was always there. (How ironic that when looked at this debate from this perspective, the big bang looks like the creationist point). It's like being swept up in a hurricane in West Palm Beach. It wasn't here, now it is. But from a perspective in outer space, over time, you watched that storm develop off the coast of Africa, build into a tremendous hurricane in the Carribbean and sweep across Southern Florida and then, die inland. Same event, different pespective, different experience. There are also other perspectives.
Maybe you were physically in West Palm, but shared the same viewpoint as the witness from space via video transmission or computer simulation. Here you experienced the actual physicalness of the event, but you also had the overall perspective. You seen that this event wasn't a catalystic event that exploded into being, an isolated event or even a personal attack at your individual. It was a personal experience, yes, but it was a process, a buildup and you just happen to lie in it's path, or journey. (Or possibly, seeing the overall view, you WENT to the event). You experienced the hurricane's intensity swell. Did the person inland experience the same event? Sure, just a different intensity and a different phase and various different perspectives.
Was that particular hurricane a one-time event, or had those same winds, those same water molecules been recycled from past storms. Is it not possible that the rain drop that falls onto your head, contains water molecules that were once in a water molecule in a glass of wine that a Roman Cesaer drank? Or, the fractal snow flake that gently descends onto your stretched tongue, contain water molecules once the sweat of a slave on a slave ship bound for the New World or from the blood of a genocide victim?
Just as man has learned to recycle his physical materials, so do ecosystems and so do galaxies--from gases to stars and back again. So why would the universe be any different?
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